Tuesday, October 14, 2008

Took me while...

OK I'm in.

Something I've been thinking about lately came from what the young adults will discussing later. Sunday morning, a clip was shown in church asking the question "What is truth?". Some of the answers were scary (truth coming in through many windows...) but if you stop to think, it is a hard question to answer. So that's my warm up question to you guys.

What is truth?

To make it harder, try to keep it simple and to the point so we can use it conversations with others.

6 comments:

Dennis DiMaggio said...

Most succinctly: Truth is that which corresponds to reality.

I think people confuse (many deliberately) “taste” and “truth”. While it can be fun to play the word games of “this is true for you, but not me”, no one lives their life that way. If I say that it’s true that cookies and cream is better than strawberry – obviously that is “taste” and not “truth”. If I say that insulin is better for a diabetic than injecting maple syrup – that is “truth”. No serious and sober diabetic would try to make the argument that insulin is true for you but maple syrup is true for me.

Does truth become a grey area around morality? Is it only “true” for believers that premarital sex is wrong? Abortion is murder? Stealing is immoral?

Thoughts?

Dr. Dre said...

Good points young grasshopper!

For many I think morality is a gray area because it's a personal issue and doesn't affect those around them (I don't agree with that line of thought but it is a common thought). For example, what difference is it to you that I'm having sex before marriage (it doesn't involve you) or abortion is something that involves my body, not yours or is stealing wrong if I am at rock bottom and no one is willing to help me?

No problem society has with morality is the same it has with sin. What parties are involved? If the issues are between you and I then the argument above is strong. However sin doesn't involve just you and I but also God. So before we discuss morality issues, the point of who God is needs to be discussed first or else you find yourself running around in circles.

I know long winded....

Dennis DiMaggio said...

First of all - I'm thrilled to be called YOUNG grasshopper!!

Not sure I agree that "before we discuss morality issues, the point of who God is needs to be discussed first or else you find yourself running around in circles".
While it is an inconsistent worldview - most can tap into the sense of right and wrong without admitting to (let alone understanding) God.

For example
While "personal morality" issues that you listed are
likely to be dismissed - you can ask any athiest or agnostic if it's ever ok to "torture babies for fun" and I'm confident you'd get 95% agreement. While God's law shines a light on our conscience - man does have an innate a knowledge of right and wrong. This is why God regards everyone as being "without excuse" before him.

(is anyone else reading this or are Andre and I just chatting)

Dr. Dre said...

I think you and I are the only ones reading this... (but I'm having fun)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I agree with your example but it is extreme so agreeing on the issue is not difficult. The moral line of right and wrong (in an every day context)is so blurry that I don't know people sense the "innate a knowledge of right and wrong". The outside influences (Hollywood / other religions / etc)have really confused society. One of Satan's tricks is too blur our every day thoughts and actions until we get into habits that are not God centered. One way of looking at our faith is to ask ourselves what Satan sees instead of what God sees. Now that is an eye opening experience...

Joe said...

I want you all to know that this is the first time I have ever posted anything on a blog. I usually don't have the patience to type out my thoughts when I can simply pick up the phone and make a quick call....but I am willing to give this thing a try. My other complaint is there no spell check.

Andre's quote

"One of Satan's tricks is too blur our every day thoughts and actions until we get into habits that are not God centered."

reminded me of one of my favorite quotes...

"...the safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestomes, without signposts"

That is all for now...

One more thing: it is true that cookies and cream is better than strawberry.

Dennis DiMaggio said...

Joe
Glad to see you took your first blog step.......

OK we tired this one out. Someone start another post......